base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

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@keighrim

The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
# and after adding gcc alone:
.../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory

This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

Mitigation (proposed)

Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

RUN apt-get update \
&& apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
&& rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

Future direction

This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

  • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
  • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
  • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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    base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

    Description

    @keighrim

    The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

    As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
    On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

    RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
    # and after adding gcc alone:
    .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
    

    This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
    The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

    Mitigation (proposed)

    Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

    RUN apt-get update \
    && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
    && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

    gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

    Future direction

    This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
    The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

    • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
    • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
    • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

    Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
    That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
    Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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      base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

      Description

      @keighrim

      The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

      As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
      On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

      RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
      # and after adding gcc alone:
      .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
      

      This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
      The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

      Mitigation (proposed)

      Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

      RUN apt-get update \
      && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
      && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

      gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

      Future direction

      This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
      The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

      • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
      • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
      • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

      Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
      That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
      Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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        base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

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        @keighrim

        The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

        As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
        On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

        RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
        # and after adding gcc alone:
        .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
        

        This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
        The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

        Mitigation (proposed)

        Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

        RUN apt-get update \
        && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
        && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

        gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

        Future direction

        This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
        The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

        • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
        • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
        • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

        Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
        That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
        Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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          base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

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          @keighrim

          The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

          As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
          On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

          RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
          # and after adding gcc alone:
          .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
          

          This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
          The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

          Mitigation (proposed)

          Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

          RUN apt-get update \
          && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
          && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

          gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

          Future direction

          This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
          The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

          • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
          • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
          • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

          Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
          That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
          Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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            base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

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            @keighrim

            The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

            As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
            On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

            RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
            # and after adding gcc alone:
            .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
            

            This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
            The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

            Mitigation (proposed)

            Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

            RUN apt-get update \
            && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
            && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

            gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

            Future direction

            This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
            The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

            • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
            • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
            • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

            Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
            That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
            Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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              @keighrim

              The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

              As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
              On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

              RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
              # and after adding gcc alone:
              .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
              

              This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
              The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

              Mitigation (proposed)

              Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

              RUN apt-get update \
              && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
              && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

              gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

              Future direction

              This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
              The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

              • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
              • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
              • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

              Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
              That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
              Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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                base images with -torch missing system dependency #302

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                @keighrim

                The *-torch2 base images (torch2, ffmpeg-torch2, opencv4-torch2, and everything downstream including all *-hf5) ship PyTorch but no C toolchain.

                As the torch team is progressively replacing hand-written per-architecture CUDA kernels with Triton-generated ones (more portable across GPUs, easier to maintain), recent torch (2.10, Jan 2026) routes some eager ops (those run op-by-op in PyTorch's default mode, i.e. not traced/compiled under torch.compile) through Triton kernels (via the torch._native op registry), and Triton compiles a small host-side CUDA driver shim at runtime (this step needs a C compiler + libc headers).
                On the slim python:3.10-slim base those are absent, so GPU inference dies at the first model.generate():

                RuntimeError: Failed to find C compiler ...
                # and after adding gcc alone:
                .../triton/backends/nvidia/include/cuda.h: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
                

                This can hit any torch-based app, e.g. the SmolVLM2 captioner.
                The recent release of the smol2 app had to add these system packages to its own Containerfile; this issue proposes the same mitigation at the base-image level so every torch-based app gets it for free.

                Mitigation (proposed)

                Add the minimal toolchain to the three *-torch2 containerfiles, where torch is installed:

                RUN apt-get update \
                && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends gcc libc6-dev \
                && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*

                gcc + libc6-dev is sufficient (verified); build-essential installs the full C toolchain but is not needed.

                Future direction

                This is a workaround, not a cure: we ship a runtime build toolchain in a slim inference image only because Triton compiles kernels on-device.
                The PyTorch 2.13 notes, released last week, point the same way:

                • PyTorch is adding more runtime codegen backends (CuTeDSL alongside Triton), so the "kernels compile on the user's machine" direction is deepening, not reversing -- but that work is Inductor / torch.compile only, so it does not touch our eager path.
                • No change yet to Triton's runtime-compiled driver shim (its own # TODO: make static), so the compiler requirement persists.
                • CUDA 13.0 is now the default build -- a separate driver-floor consideration for whatever CUDA version future base images track.

                Another mitigation is to pin torch (<=2.9.*) so Triton is not required at all.
                That is not desirable, though: pinning down would freeze the base images on an old torch and forgo the bug fixes, performance work, and transformers/CUDA compatibility the torch team ships in newer releases.
                Ideally, upstream would ship a pre-compiled driver shim and pip install would resolve every dependency -- but until that happens, keeping a minimal C toolchain in the base is the best mitigation, IMHO.

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