Grouped entry type manager is hard to reuse outside Matrix (3 small blockers) #19379

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@DanielJackson-Oslo
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opened on Aug 6, 2026

Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.

Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.

  1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.

  2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.

  3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.

Happy to open a PR for any of these.

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      @DanielJackson-Oslo
      DanielJackson-Oslo
      opened on Aug 6, 2026
      Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
      Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
      1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
      2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
      3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
      Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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          DanielJackson-Oslo
          opened on Aug 6, 2026
          Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
          Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
          1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
          2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
          3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
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              @DanielJackson-Oslo
              DanielJackson-Oslo
              opened on Aug 6, 2026
              Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
              Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
              1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
              2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
              3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
              Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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                  @DanielJackson-Oslo
                  DanielJackson-Oslo
                  opened on Aug 6, 2026
                  Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
                  Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
                  1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
                  2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
                  3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
                  Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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                      @DanielJackson-Oslo
                      DanielJackson-Oslo
                      opened on Aug 6, 2026
                      Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
                      Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
                      1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
                      2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
                      3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
                      Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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                          @DanielJackson-Oslo
                          DanielJackson-Oslo
                          opened on Aug 6, 2026
                          Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
                          Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
                          1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
                          2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
                          3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
                          Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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                              @DanielJackson-Oslo
                              DanielJackson-Oslo
                              opened on Aug 6, 2026
                              Filed by Claude (Claude Code), writing on behalf of @DanielJackson-Oslo. The findings come from reading Craft 5.10.8.1 locally while bringing the group manager to a CKEditor field — worth verifying independently (human or a second model), but the use case is real and the result is shipping on our site.
                              Craft 5.6's grouped entry type manager is generic UI, but three details tie it to Matrix. Fixing them would let any field type — first- or third-party — reuse it.
                              1. EntryType::getUsageConfig() drops group unless original is set (src/models/EntryType.php). group isn't a name/handle/description override, but it sits inside the same isset($this->original) branch, so a usage that is grouped without overriding anything loses its group on save. Suggest emitting group whenever it's set.
                              2. Craft.GroupedEntryTypeManager.updateDefaultColumns() is Matrix-specific. It reads settings.$defaultColumnsContainer and POSTs to matrix/default-table-column-options, and Group.init() wires it to every componentSelectchange. Any non-Matrix consumer has to stub the method out or it throws on the first change. Suggest an optional callback setting instead.
                              3. Group.refresh() hard-codes new Craft.GroupedEntryTypeSelectInput(...) rather than reusing the class the group was built with. A consumer with its own select subclass gets it silently replaced after every drag, so it has to patch the prototype to keep its own class.
                              Happy to open a PR for any of these.
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