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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

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see #8897

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

Is relying on something present only on such new distros a good idea?

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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512 bytes threshold looks pretty low, does SVE give any advantage over the current implementation? Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements. Considering that there is no hardware that implements SVE with >128 bit vectors under the hood?

Pros:

  • We migth potentially benefit from 256-bit (or wider) SVE stores in future (Although, hopefully, by that time JIT will be able to use SVE too)
  • Same for the upcoming hardware memcpy instructions

Cons:

  • We've seen regressions from the native memcpy compared to current implementation (e.g. on Ubuntu 22.04)

Related: #93214

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It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

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Currently, we align data to 16 bytes boundary and then do copy using 64 bytes blocks (using two stp SIMD stores) + one 64-byte block for the trailing elements.

Oh i didn´t know that. Then my MR probably doesn´t make much sense, as it would lead to performance regressions on most distros out there currently.

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This commit: bminor/glibc@9f298bf added an optimized memcpy implementation for ARM64 which uses the SVE extensions to glibc 2.36 and newer.

It is now used in some Linux Distributions like Debian 12 (bookworm), Ubuntu 23.04 or the upcoming Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April 2024.

see #8897

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