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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]

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Makes sense.

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
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Makes sense.

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
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Makes sense.

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]

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Makes sense.

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
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Makes sense.

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from
OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given
recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.
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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]

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Makes sense.

@tankyleo Feel free to open a PR with that diff upstream.

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Makes sense.

@tankyleo Feel free to open a PR with that diff upstream.

PR opened here rust-bitcoin/rust-bip39#105

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Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from OS entropy instead of initializing a thread-local generator. Also given recent events, better have this more explicitly defined than in a dep.

Mnemonic generation is infrequent, so source randomness directly from
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@tnull let us know what you think, this gets us back to our choice of RNG following this PR #683

I'm also thinking we should apply this patch on rust-bip39 too:

diff --git a/src/lib.rs b/src/lib.rs
index ea56c05..69f4def 100644
--- a/src/lib.rs+++ b/src/lib.rs@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
/// use bip39::{Mnemonic, Language};
///
-	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::thread_rng();+	/// let mut rng = bip39::rand::rngs::OsRng;
/// let m = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand_core")]
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ impl Mnemonic {
/// ```
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]
pub fn generate_in(language: Language, word_count: usize) -> Result<Mnemonic, Error> {
- Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), language, word_count)+ Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, language, word_count)
}
/// Generate a new [Mnemonic] in English.
@@ -727,7 +727,7 @@ mod tests {
fn test_generate() {
let _ = Mnemonic::generate(24).unwrap();
let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in(Language::English, 24).unwrap();
- let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::thread_rng(), Language::English, 24).unwrap();+ let _ = Mnemonic::generate_in_with(&mut rand::rngs::OsRng, Language::English, 24).unwrap();
}
#[cfg(feature = "rand")]

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Makes sense.

@tankyleo Feel free to open a PR with that diff upstream.

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Makes sense.

@tankyleo Feel free to open a PR with that diff upstream.

PR opened here rust-bitcoin/rust-bip39#105

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