fs: stop fixing EPERM on Windows

[RaisinTen]

Originally, when rimraf faced an EPERM on Windows, it would try to
change the file permissions of the entry and attempt to remove it
again. However, rm -rf doesn't change any file permissions, so rimraf
shouldn't either.

This change also updates test/common/tmpdir.js to repeatedly try
changing the file permissions of its contents to 0o777 when an EACCES or
an EPERM is faced while attempting to remove them.

Signed-off-by: Darshan Sen raisinten@gmail.com

[aduh95]

What should be the semverness of this change?

[RaisinTen]

@aduh95

Since this is not an API change, I don't think it's going to be semver-major.

There is a behavioural change involved, so maybe this is a semver-minor?

However, I would consider this to be just a fix as this change aligns rm with what the docs already say:

modeled on the standard POSIX rm utility

[aduh95]

LGTM, 69 lines of deleted code, nice!

nit: it reads clearer to me if we let the throw expression inside a if block, feel free to disagree oc

[Linkgoron]

I think that it makes sense to add a test for this - or at least fix the tests that I added in the previous rmSync fix, so that they don't allow the folder to get deleted when trying to delete it (which I allowed, to get it to pass the tests). It probably makes sense to add a test to rm as well (my test only checks rmSync)

[targos]

@nodejs/fs

[targos]

Could it be that the CI runs of this PR are leaving broken directories on Windows hosts?

See #38811 (comment) / https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-binary-windows-js-suites/10108/RUN_SUBSET=0,nodes=win10-COMPILED_BY-vs2019/console

14:56:28 > git clean -dffx 14:56:29 warning: failed to remove test/.tmp.243/rm-6: Permission denied

[RaisinTen]

@targos Yes I think one of the CI runs here is to blame, how do we fix it?

[targos]

/cc @nodejs/build-infra ^

[richardlau]

Could it be that the CI runs of this PR are leaving broken directories on Windows hosts?

See #38811 (comment) / https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-binary-windows-js-suites/10108/RUN_SUBSET=0,nodes=win10-COMPILED_BY-vs2019/console

14:56:28 > git clean -dffx 14:56:29 warning: failed to remove test/.tmp.243/rm-6: Permission denied

Yes I think one of the CI runs here is to blame, how do we fix it?

FYI Anyone in @nodejs/build can run https://ci.nodejs.org/job/git-clean-windows/ to clean out the git workspaces on the Windows hosts. (I've just done so.)

[RaisinTen]

@nodejs/build Sorry, I think I broke Windows again:

21:25:07 > git clean -dffx 21:25:07 warning: failed to remove test/.tmp.242/rm-6: Permission denied

Refs: https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-binary-windows-js-suites/10120/RUN_SUBSET=0,nodes=win10-COMPILED_BY-vs2019/console

Why don't we run https://ci.nodejs.org/job/git-clean-windows/ at the end of every CI run on the Windows hosts?

[aduh95]

It looks like this also broke non-Windows CI machine setups – all builds made after https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-pull-request/38372/ are red, failing on test.parallel/test-fs-rm...

[RaisinTen]

It looks like this also broke non-Windows CI machine setups – all builds made after https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-pull-request/38372/ are red, failing on test.parallel/test-fs-rm...

That is right. 😕
Since one failure seems to trigger the rest of the tests in the file to fail, I think I'll move each chmod+rm test to a separate file and manually handle the deletion instead of leaving it to tmpdir.

[Linkgoron]

Maybe we could change the tmpdir exit code to try to chmod(0o777) files that it couldn't delete, if it gets EPERM of EACCES and then let it try to delete the folders again.

[RaisinTen]

Maybe we could change the tmpdir exit code to try to chmod(0o777) files that it couldn't delete, if it gets EPERM of EACCES and then let it try to delete the folders again.

@Linkgoron Updated tmpdir. PTAL.

[richardlau]

Do we need extras checks to make sure we're not changing access to a directory outside (e.g. the parent) of the tmpdir?

[RaisinTen]

Since err comes from rmSync(tmpPath);, the path in err will always be something inside tmpPath, so I don't think we need more checks.

[aduh95]

It might be just an unlucky coincidence, build-windows GH Actions is failing consistently in every PRs since 939a1f2.

https://github.com/nodejs/node/actions/workflows/build-windows.yml

[RaisinTen]

Not necessarily him, but I would feel much more comfortable with this if it's approved by someone from the tooling team.

👍

@nodejs/tooling Pinging again for review because a week has passed and we didn't get any review yet.

[bcoe]

@RaisinTen with regards to this change, my concern is that the rimraf logic we pulled in is fairly battle tested ... the fact that changing this behavior is now leaving uncleaned up files in our CI/CD is a canary in the coal mine, won't many people who are using fs.rmdir for similar cleanup tasks in their CI/CD begin also failing to cleanup files on Windows ...

Given that tests are one of the most common places where this helper is likely to be used, are we sure this is a change we want to take?

[isaacs]

The semantics around removing read-only files differs between Windows and Posix.

rm -rf doesn't do this, because it is not needed on Posix systems. However, in order to replicate the Posix behavior on win32 systems in some situations, this workaround was necessary.

See: isaacs/rimraf#24 (comment)

Removing this will make it impossible for users to remove read-only files on Windows, which is allowed by posix rm -rf.

$ touch foo
$ chmod 0444 foo
$ ls -laF
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 isaacs staff 96 Jun 18 09:00 ./
drwxr-xr-x 144 isaacs staff 4608 Jun 18 08:50 ../
-r--r--r-- 1 isaacs staff 0 Jun 18 09:00 foo
$ rm -rf foo
$ ls -laF
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 isaacs staff 64 Jun 18 09:00 ./
drwxr-xr-x 144 isaacs staff 4608 Jun 18 08:50 ../
$ mkdir dir
$ chmod 0555 dir
$ ls -laF dir
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 2 isaacs staff 64 Jun 18 09:02 ./
drwxr-xr-x 3 isaacs staff 96 Jun 18 09:02 ../
$ rm -rf dir
$ ls -laF dir
ls: dir: No such file or directory

The divergence between Posix and this rimraf implementation on windows, is that on Posix systems, while you can delete read-only files and directories, you may not delete the contents of a read-only directory. I would perhaps be +1 on replicating that behavior, however, the expectation of being able to remove directories on Windows (eg, by deleting them in Explorer) is that a read-only folder may be removed if the user has permission to change its read-only status, and its contents may be removed as well. Thus, the decision was made to keep the workaround as it is.

tl;dr - If you remove this EPERM workaround, you will make a lot of windows users unable to delete .git folders, and they will be unhappy about it.

[bcoe]

@RaisinTen@isaacs perhaps rather than landing this change, we could land a test that demonstrates initializing an empty git repo, and then uses rm to delete it? verify this edge case.

And then add a comment to our implementation which explains @isaacs' reasoning in detail.

[isaacs]

What problem is this patch aiming to solve?

If there isn't a substantive complaint about the functionality as it is, it seems to me like it's changing code to match the documentation, when we ought to be updating the documentation to match what the code has been doing without complaint for 8 years.

[boneskull]

I'm -1 on this. It's going to break users for reasons of cross-platform consistency where no such consistency exists in the first place. Better to update docs.

[RaisinTen]

If we want to chmod() and retry deleting folders on Windows when an EPERM occurs, shouldn't we do it from inside rmdir() instead of rimraf? Why keep rm() and rmdir() inconsistent while removing a read only directory on Windows?

Also, shouldn't we depend on what Libuv does for these kinds of things instead of handling them from inside Node.js? I know that the implementation of a number of functions in src/win/fs.c of Libuv have been done without using the CRT functions to make things consistent between platforms (for example, unlink()). rmdir() in Libuv currently just calls the _wrmdir() CRT function which returns EACCES (incorrectly translated as EPERM) on read only directories. I think we should write the EPERM handling logic inside fs__rmdir() of src/win/fs.c.

Windows users can run chmod() before removing .git folders if they want. If it is a .git-only issue, shouldn't the issue be reported at Git?

The divergence between Posix and this rimraf implementation on windows, is that on Posix systems, while you can delete read-only files and directories, you may not delete the contents of a read-only directory.

Here too, an initial chmod would work. I have also considered adding a recursive option to fs.chmod(), so that it is easier to remove directories that have multiple levels of read only directories inside them.

[bcoe]

If we want to chmod() and retry deleting folders on Windows when an EPERM occurs, shouldn't we do it from inside rmdir() instead of rimraf? Why keep rm() and rmdir() inconsistent while removing a read only directory on Windows?

On my mind when we worked on this feature, was that once you say rmdir/recursive a user is opting in to a somewhat more aggressive version of rmdir.

Please delete these files for me, and try hard to do so, it's okay I know what I'm doing.

It felt okay to have this, while having rmdir (without recursive) stay more conservative.

Windows users can run chmod() before removing .git

Many folks relying on rmdir recursive, or mdkir recursive are doing so in the context of unit tests, which they'll then run in a test matrix that includes a variety of platforms.

Someone writing a library that generates .git folders during testing doesn't want to add additional chmod behavior in their before logic solely for the benefit of Windows...

It creates cruft in tests, and is confusing (you would need to know about this edge case in folder permissions ahead of time to address the issue).

Shouldn't we depend on what Libuv does for these kinds of things instead of handling them from inside Node.js

I'm very supportive of removing functionality from Node.js if we can get it upstreamed in libuv 👍

I also think it's perfectly okay to have functionality in Node.js that improves platform ergonomics ... sometimes it's harder to fix things in a lower level, which can be relatively easy to fix a layer of abstraction up.

My two cents

If I'm understanding correctly, Node.js' own test suites started leaving .git folders around because we ourselves were relying on rimraf's fixing of EPERM on Windows? This is a strong indicator for me that I would consider this change breaking, and without a strong user case for doing so, I would avoid making this change.

Having said this, I'm very supportive of:

• removing functionality from Node if behavior was added upstream to libuv.
• signing off on a PR that explains the current behavior.
• revisiting this decision if there are real world examples as to why the current behavior of rimraf is a bad idea.

[RaisinTen]

I don't think this is worth the breakage anymore.

[bcoe]

@RaisinTen thanks for being understanding, regarding the tradeoffs discussed in this thread 👍

One thought, we should probably still add a test for deleting .git potentially -- if this is was one of the main motivators for the EPERM fix on Windows.

[RaisinTen]

@bcoe I've sent a PR to add the tests - #42410. :)