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The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

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Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

The divergence

userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

boundarybound
/data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

The options

  1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
  2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
  3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

Why it is worth a card rather than a note

The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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      The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

      Description

      @os-steve

      Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

      The divergence

      userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

      boundarybound
      /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
      errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
      errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

      Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

      The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

      ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

      What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

      PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

      The options

      1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
      2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
      3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

      ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

      Why it is worth a card rather than a note

      The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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          The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

          Description

          @os-steve

          Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

          The divergence

          userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

          boundarybound
          /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
          errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
          errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

          Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

          The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

          ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

          What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

          PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

          The options

          1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
          2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
          3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

          ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

          Why it is worth a card rather than a note

          The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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              The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

              Description

              @os-steve

              Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

              The divergence

              userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

              boundarybound
              /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
              errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
              errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

              Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

              The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

              ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

              What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

              PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

              The options

              1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
              2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
              3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

              ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

              Why it is worth a card rather than a note

              The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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                  The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

                  Description

                  @os-steve

                  Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

                  The divergence

                  userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

                  boundarybound
                  /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
                  errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
                  errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

                  Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

                  The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

                  ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

                  What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

                  PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

                  The options

                  1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
                  2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
                  3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

                  ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

                  Why it is worth a card rather than a note

                  The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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                      The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

                      Description

                      @os-steve

                      Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

                      The divergence

                      userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

                      boundarybound
                      /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
                      errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
                      errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

                      Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

                      The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

                      ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

                      What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

                      PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

                      The options

                      1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
                      2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
                      3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

                      ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

                      Why it is worth a card rather than a note

                      The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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                          The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

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                          @os-steve

                          Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

                          The divergence

                          userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

                          boundarybound
                          /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
                          errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
                          errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

                          Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

                          The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

                          ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

                          What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

                          PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

                          The options

                          1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
                          2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
                          3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

                          ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

                          Why it is worth a card rather than a note

                          The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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                              The userMessage BOUND is decided per-boundary: /data truncates it, the two runtime doors emit it verbatim — no ruling covers which is right #13624

                              Description

                              @os-steve

                              Measured while implementing #13241 (PR #13619), raised by the dev as an open question and filed by the domain:cli PM seat. Unlabelled for triage. Pre-existing — this divergence predates #13241 and is not caused by it.

                              The divergence

                              userMessage is the author-facing text channel (#9934). The boundaries that carry it do not agree on whether it is bounded:

                              boundarybound
                              /data (packages/rest/src/error-response.ts)bounded — via boundedDeclaredUserMessage, applying truncateClientMessage (#5423's bound)
                              errorFromThrown (packages/runtime/src/http-dispatcher.ts)verbatim, unbounded
                              errorResponseBase (packages/runtime/src/dispatcher-plugin.ts)verbatim, unbounded (as of #13241 / PR #13619, matching its sibling)

                              Why the standing meta-criterion does not settle it

                              The lane's default for one operation, two implementations, inconsistent behaviour is the aligned side wins. ⚠️That rule is ambiguous here, because the two existing implementations already disagree with each other — there is no single "aligned side" to inherit. Whichever way it is ruled, one of the three doors changes.

                              ⇒ Recorded as a genuine open question rather than resolved by a default that does not reach it.

                              What #13241 did, and why that is not the answer

                              PR #13619 chose to match its closest sibling (errorFromThrown: same package, same ADR-0112 nested envelope, same resolver input, byte-identical expression). That is the correct choice for that PR — it introduces no third behaviour — and it is explicitly not a ruling on the bound. Adopting /data's bound instead would have meant importing a packages/rest-private bound (truncateClientMessage / CLIENT_MESSAGE_MAX) into packages/runtime, which is a cross-package contract decision and squarely out of that card's scope.

                              The options

                              1. Bound everywhere — promote the bound to the shared layer (declaredUserMessage / resolveThrownHttpError, where the "one rule, every door inherits" property already lives), so no door decides it. Cost: a published response can start truncating where it did not; needs the current max measured against real marks.
                              2. Verbatim everywhere — drop /data's bound. Cost: removes a deliberate guard; rest-server 的 4xx 直通把 ≥500 字符的 message 整条换成 "Request failed" —— #5368 刚写好的过滤器拒收措辞,客户端一个字也收不到(实测) #5423 introduced that bound for a reason that should be re-read before it is undone.
                              3. Leave it per-boundary and document it. Cost: makes "how long may a mark be?" a property of which door answered, which is the shape this repo keeps filing cards about.

                              ⚠️The missing input is the same in all three: nobody has measured what the bound actually is, whether any real mark approaches it, or what /data does when it truncates (silent? ellipsis?). ⛔ Ruling before that is guessing.

                              Why it is worth a card rather than a note

                              The mark is text an author wrote for an end user. A bound that applies at one door and not another means the same authored sentence reaches the user whole or clipped depending on which door refused — and the author has no way to know which. That is a small defect with a user-visible surface, which is the class this repo has repeatedly found expensive to leave implicit.

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