Filed by the domain:services PM seat (#6021) from #13909 slice 1's measured report (PR #13934). ⛔ Not ruling it — this changes resume semantics for every pausing node type, and the two live shapes trade a visible failure for a silent one in opposite directions. Blocking nothing today: #13909's slice 1 makes the condition visible, and the remedy for runs already stuck (shape 4) is dispatchable regardless of how this is ruled.
The mechanism, verified on origin/main
AutomationEngine.resumeInternal consumes the suspension before running downstream nodes, so a node that merely throws throws with the pause already gone and the catch arm records the run failed — unresumable, with no verb anywhere that moves it out. The in-place comment says what the order is for:
Consume the suspension before running downstream work — a run resumes exactly once per pause, and a duplicate resume after a partial restart must not double-run side effects. … This is also where the paused node learns its pause is over and disarms what it armed on entry (#5512).
⚠️#5512 is a second consumer of that point, not its cause ("this is also where"). #5512's own requirements are one notification per consumption, through the single choke point, after the suspension is gone from cache and store — none of them requires the consumption to precede traverseNext. What the ordering really buys is exactly-once across a crash.
The three shapes, with costs measured from the contracts and the five resume callers
Shape 2 — run traverseNext first, consume on success only.
✅ A thrown node leaves the pause intact, so the run stays resumable. Answers the defect directly.
⛔ Exactly-once inverts: a crash mid-traversal leaves the durable row alive, so the restart re-runs every side effect already performed — a silent double-run replacing a visible strand.
⛔ hasSuspendedRun answers true for the whole traversal window ⇒ ApprovalService.assertRunResumable flips from refusing a mid-resume second decision (RESUME_TARGET_LOST) to admitting one that then collides with RESUME_IN_PROGRESS.
Shape 3 — consume, then re-arm the suspension on a caught throw.
✅ Keeps crash-time exactly-once while a caught throw restores a resumable pause.
⛔ Breaks the one #5512 clause the ordering really carries. By the time the catch runs, releaseSuspension has told the executor the pause is over and wait-node has cancelled its one-shot (wait-node.ts:68: "#5512's onSuspensionReleased drops this job when it does") ⇒ re-persisting produces a timer wait nothing will ever wake — #5512's own defect inverted, and silent, which is worse than a visible failed.
⛔ Needs a new mandatoryNodeExecutor hook every pausing node type must implement, plus an attempt counter / poison threshold or a genuinely broken node retries forever.
Shape 4 — leave the ordering; add an explicit operator verb (re-arm / retry a terminally failed run).
✅ No change to resume semantics for any node type ⇒ no blast radius. Turns a state a deployment can only enter into one it can also leave. Composes with shape 2 later.
⛔ Repair, not prevention — a run still passes through the unresumable state.
四棱
- ① 实际业务拉动 — 五个 resume 调用者与两个
hasSuspendedRun 读者里,没有一个需要暂停被「提前」消费;它们需要的是恰好消费一次,而那也可以由一个持久 claim/lease 提供。已有部署里卡住的 run 数量未知(⚠️ 只有运维能查),而这正是先要一个出口动词的理由。 - ② 项目长远合理性 — shape 3 是权宜形状:它用一个
NodeExecutor 的新强制钩子和一套平台本来没有的重试策略,去买一个顺序;而它的失败态(一个永远不会被唤醒的等待)是无声的。 - ③ 防 AI 犯错 — ⭐ 这一棱最关键。shape 2 若不配 lease,是把「平台明确告诉你 run 失败了」换成「平台在崩溃后静默重跑副作用」—— 它让危险的那个情形变成安静的那个,而这正是本项目一贯拒绝的方向。
- ④ 创业阶段不扩散 — shape 4 是移除「进得去出不来」这个状态的最小增量,且不必在没人知道受影响行数之前就先花掉顺序变更的爆炸半径。
推荐:shape 4 先行;shape 2 仅在与一个保住 exactly-once 的持久 claim/lease 同批时才做;shape 3 尽早排除。
⚠️ 一件必须与裁决同批决定的事
条件的命名(#13909 交付项 3)。#13909 slice 1 加的 StrandedRunState('missing' | 'failed')是 plugin 局部的报告标签,已就地注明不是 run state;平台级的名字要落 packages/spec/src/contracts/automation-service.ts(其 AutomationResult.status 至今是 'completed' | 'paused' | 'failed')。
⇒ 叫什么取决于裁哪一个:裁 shape 2 则该条件基本不再存在、不值得持久化一个状态;裁 shape 4 则它成为运维要操作的持久状态、应当有名字。⛔ 先命名会为一个可能被顺序变更消灭的状态铸造词汇。
⛔ 本席不代裁的理由
维护者地板的判据是安全/权限边界,本卡不落在那里 —— 但它改变每一种暂停节点类型的 resume 语义,而两个活着的形状是在两个相反方向上用一个可见的失败换一个无声的失败。这是架构取舍,不是执行细节。
裁后本席怎么执行(你不用管)
裁 4 ⇒ 立即派出口动词那一刀(⚠️ 大概率触 packages/spec ⇒ 走条款②契约复审档位),命名同批定;裁 2 ⇒ 先要 claim/lease 的设计,再动顺序,assertRunResumable 的翻转必须同批钉住;裁 3 ⇒ 需要先立 NodeExecutor 钩子的契约卡。
Related
#13909(可见性,已交付 slice 1)· #13807(审批门的原子性,Blocked-by: #13909)· #5512(暂停释放通知)· PR #13934(本卡全部代价读数的来源)
Filed by the
domain:servicesPM seat (#6021) from #13909 slice 1's measured report (PR #13934). ⛔ Not ruling it — this changes resume semantics for every pausing node type, and the two live shapes trade a visible failure for a silent one in opposite directions. Blocking nothing today: #13909's slice 1 makes the condition visible, and the remedy for runs already stuck (shape 4) is dispatchable regardless of how this is ruled.The mechanism, verified on
origin/mainAutomationEngine.resumeInternalconsumes the suspension before running downstream nodes, so a node that merely throws throws with the pause already gone and the catch arm records the runfailed— unresumable, with no verb anywhere that moves it out. The in-place comment says what the order is for:traverseNext. What the ordering really buys is exactly-once across a crash.The three shapes, with costs measured from the contracts and the five resume callers
Shape 2 — run
traverseNextfirst, consume on success only.✅ A thrown node leaves the pause intact, so the run stays resumable. Answers the defect directly.
⛔ Exactly-once inverts: a crash mid-traversal leaves the durable row alive, so the restart re-runs every side effect already performed — a silent double-run replacing a visible strand.
⛔
hasSuspendedRunanswers true for the whole traversal window ⇒ApprovalService.assertRunResumableflips from refusing a mid-resume second decision (RESUME_TARGET_LOST) to admitting one that then collides withRESUME_IN_PROGRESS.Shape 3 — consume, then re-arm the suspension on a caught throw.
✅ Keeps crash-time exactly-once while a caught throw restores a resumable pause.
⛔ Breaks the one #5512 clause the ordering really carries. By the time the catch runs,
releaseSuspensionhas told the executor the pause is over and wait-node has cancelled its one-shot (wait-node.ts:68: "#5512'sonSuspensionReleaseddrops this job when it does") ⇒ re-persisting produces a timer wait nothing will ever wake — #5512's own defect inverted, and silent, which is worse than a visiblefailed.⛔ Needs a new mandatory
NodeExecutorhook every pausing node type must implement, plus an attempt counter / poison threshold or a genuinely broken node retries forever.Shape 4 — leave the ordering; add an explicit operator verb (re-arm / retry a terminally failed run).
✅ No change to resume semantics for any node type ⇒ no blast radius. Turns a state a deployment can only enter into one it can also leave. Composes with shape 2 later.
⛔ Repair, not prevention — a run still passes through the unresumable state.
四棱
hasSuspendedRun读者里,没有一个需要暂停被「提前」消费;它们需要的是恰好消费一次,而那也可以由一个持久 claim/lease 提供。已有部署里卡住的 run 数量未知(NodeExecutor的新强制钩子和一套平台本来没有的重试策略,去买一个顺序;而它的失败态(一个永远不会被唤醒的等待)是无声的。推荐:shape 4 先行;shape 2 仅在与一个保住 exactly-once 的持久 claim/lease 同批时才做;shape 3 尽早排除。
条件的命名(#13909 交付项 3)。#13909 slice 1 加的
StrandedRunState('missing' | 'failed')是 plugin 局部的报告标签,已就地注明不是 run state;平台级的名字要落packages/spec/src/contracts/automation-service.ts(其AutomationResult.status至今是'completed' | 'paused' | 'failed')。⇒ 叫什么取决于裁哪一个:裁 shape 2 则该条件基本不再存在、不值得持久化一个状态;裁 shape 4 则它成为运维要操作的持久状态、应当有名字。⛔ 先命名会为一个可能被顺序变更消灭的状态铸造词汇。
⛔ 本席不代裁的理由
维护者地板的判据是安全/权限边界,本卡不落在那里 —— 但它改变每一种暂停节点类型的 resume 语义,而两个活着的形状是在两个相反方向上用一个可见的失败换一个无声的失败。这是架构取舍,不是执行细节。
裁后本席怎么执行(你不用管)
裁 4 ⇒ 立即派出口动词那一刀(⚠️ 大概率触
packages/spec⇒ 走条款②契约复审档位),命名同批定;裁 2 ⇒ 先要 claim/lease 的设计,再动顺序,assertRunResumable的翻转必须同批钉住;裁 3 ⇒ 需要先立NodeExecutor钩子的契约卡。Related
#13909(可见性,已交付 slice 1)· #13807(审批门的原子性,
Blocked-by: #13909)· #5512(暂停释放通知)· PR #13934(本卡全部代价读数的来源)