finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

Description

@os-warren

Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

What was measured

duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

write facecontextforged completed_at
MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

Why it happens

The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
...
}

The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

Two things that look unintended

1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

(In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

The question for triage

Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

Reproduction

Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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      finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

      Description

      @os-warren

      Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

      Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

      What was measured

      duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

      write facecontextforged completed_at
      MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
      MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
      MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
      engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

      The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

      Why it happens

      The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

      functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
      ...
      }

      The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

      Two things that look unintended

      1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

      like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

      stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

      2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

      constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

      Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

      (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

      The question for triage

      Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

      Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

      Reproduction

      Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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          finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

          Description

          @os-warren

          Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

          Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

          What was measured

          duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

          write facecontextforged completed_at
          MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
          MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
          MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
          engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

          The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

          Why it happens

          The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

          functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
          ...
          }

          The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

          Two things that look unintended

          1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

          like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

          stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

          2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

          constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

          Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

          (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

          The question for triage

          Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

          Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

          Reproduction

          Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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              finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

              Description

              @os-warren

              Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

              Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

              What was measured

              duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

              write facecontextforged completed_at
              MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
              MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
              MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
              engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

              The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

              Why it happens

              The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

              functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
              ...
              }

              The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

              Two things that look unintended

              1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

              like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

              stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

              2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

              constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

              Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

              (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

              The question for triage

              Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

              Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

              Reproduction

              Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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                  finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

                  Description

                  @os-warren

                  Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

                  Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

                  What was measured

                  duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

                  write facecontextforged completed_at
                  MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
                  MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
                  MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
                  engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

                  The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

                  Why it happens

                  The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

                  functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
                  ...
                  }

                  The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

                  Two things that look unintended

                  1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

                  like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

                  stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

                  2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

                  constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

                  Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

                  (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

                  The question for triage

                  Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

                  Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

                  Reproduction

                  Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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                      finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

                      Description

                      @os-warren

                      Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

                      Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

                      What was measured

                      duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

                      write facecontextforged completed_at
                      MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
                      MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
                      MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
                      engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

                      The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

                      Why it happens

                      The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

                      functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
                      ...
                      }

                      The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

                      Two things that look unintended

                      1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

                      like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

                      stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

                      2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

                      constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

                      Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

                      (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

                      The question for triage

                      Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

                      Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

                      Reproduction

                      Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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                          finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

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                          @os-warren

                          Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

                          Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

                          What was measured

                          duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

                          write facecontextforged completed_at
                          MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
                          MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
                          MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
                          engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

                          The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

                          Why it happens

                          The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

                          functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
                          ...
                          }

                          The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

                          Two things that look unintended

                          1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

                          like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

                          stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

                          2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

                          constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

                          Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

                          (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

                          The question for triage

                          Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

                          Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

                          Reproduction

                          Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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                              finding: the insert-path readonly strip is a protocol-boundary guard only — engine.insert applies none of it, and create_record's onFieldsDropped channel can never fire for a readonly drop #14147

                              Description

                              @os-warren

                              Observation from an application (objectstack-ai/duly), filed for triage rather than as a defect — the asymmetry may be intended, but the engine's own prose says otherwise and one consumer is wired for a signal it cannot receive.

                              Measured against @objectstack/runtime 17.2.0 / @objectstack/objectql 17.2.0 / @objectstack/metadata-protocol 17.2.0, on a real booted kernel with the in-memory driver.

                              What was measured

                              duly_task.completed_at is readonly: true.

                              write facecontextforged completed_at
                              MetadataProtocolService.createDatanonestripped (row then refused by a validation rule)
                              MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: false }stripped
                              MetadataProtocolService.createData{ isSystem: true }preserved (intended — the documented exemption)
                              engine.insert (the data service)nonepreserved

                              The last row is the finding: a non-system caller reaching engine.insert directly writes the read-only column, with no refusal, no WARN, and no onFieldsDropped event.

                              Why it happens

                              The insert-path strip is stripReadonlyForInsert, which lives in @objectstack/metadata-protocol and is called from exactly two places — MetadataProtocolService.createData and cloneData:

                              functionstripReadonlyForInsert(schema,data,context){if(context?.isSystem)returndata;
                              ...
                              }

                              The update path is not like this: stripReadonlyFields is inside ObjectQL and runs on every engine.update, isSystem-gated. So readonly is enforced in-engine on update and only at the API boundary on insert.

                              Two things that look unintended

                              1. The engine's own doc comment claims otherwise.assertReferencesResolve in objectql/dist/core.js describes its non-system scoping as being

                              like every other write-path guard in this engine (stripReadonlyFields, stripReadonlyForInsert).

                              stripReadonlyForInsert is not in that engine and is not on engine.insert's path at all. An application author reading that reasonably concludes the engine enforces readonly on insert.

                              2. create_record is wired for a drop event it can never get. The automation engine's create_record executor (@objectstack/service-automation) calls data.insert — the engine, not the protocol — and passes onFieldsDropped, then surfaces the result as output.droppedFields and node warnings:

                              constcreated=awaitdata.insert(objectName,fields,{context: dataCtx,onFieldsDropped: (e)=>{dropped.push(e);}});

                              Since no readonly strip runs on that path, that channel cannot report a readonly drop. A flow without runAs: 'system' can set a readonly column at insert and the run reports a clean success.

                              (In the application that found this, the relevant flow does declare runAs: 'system', so nothing there is currently affected — this is reported as a seam, not an incident.)

                              The question for triage

                              Is the insert-side strip deliberately a user-context / API-boundary concern (which #3425's framing suggests), with engine.insert trusted by construction? If so the fix is prose plus the dead onFieldsDropped wiring on create_record. If not, the strip belongs on the engine insert path where its update-side twin already lives.

                              Either way readonly currently means something different on insert than on update, and the difference is not written down anywhere an application author would look.

                              Reproduction

                              Two duly_task inserts with an identical payload carrying a forged completed_at, one through protocol.createData and one through data.insert, both with no context. Pinned as a tripwire in objectstack-ai/dulytest/seed-history.test.ts, the insert-path strip is a BOUNDARY guard block — which is written to go red and be deleted when this is closed.

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