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I noticed that yield/no-sync could potentially return void? in addition to #t or #f, which seems like a potential bug.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

Meanwhile, I see how the documentation can be read your way — and your way matches the implementation of the non-internal functions. I'll look at revising the docs to make them unambiguous to me.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

Meanwhile, I see how the documentation can be read your way — and your way matches the implementation of the non-internal functions. I'll look at revising the docs to make them unambiguous to me.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

Meanwhile, I see how the documentation can be read your way — and your way matches the implementation of the non-internal functions. I'll look at revising the docs to make them unambiguous to me.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
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When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

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I noticed that yield/no-sync could potentially return void? in addition to #t or #f, which seems like a potential bug.

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Good catch, but I think the documentation promises a #t result instead of #f when the current thread is not the handler thread. I'm not sure that was the right choice, but it's more consistent with a (void) result, so probably we want to align with the documentation.

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Note that this change is about yield/no-sync, which is private and undocumented (afaict). I was concerned about uses like

(lambda () (let loop () (pre-event-sync #t) (when (yield/no-sync) (loop))))
where a void result would cause an infinite loop.

My reading of the documentation for yield is that a #f result is expected in this case (a yield call without a positional arg):

If no argument is provided, yield dispatches an unspecified number of events, but only if the current thread is the current eventspace’s handler thread (otherwise, there is no effect). The result is #t if any events may have been handled, #f otherwise.

It does say #t is expected if called in a non-handler thread, but only if a 'wait positional argument is provided

If v is 'wait [...]
[...]
When called in a non-handler thread, yield returns immediately. In either case, the result is #t.

I could definitely be missing something, though.

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Ah, I didn't look at enough context to see that yield/no-sync is a function used only internally. It looks like that function always called via constrained-replay, though, which would make sure that it's called in a handler thread. If I have that right, maybe yield/no-sync should skip the check or complain if it's called in the wrong eventspace.

Meanwhile, I see how the documentation can be read your way — and your way matches the implementation of the non-internal functions. I'll look at revising the docs to make them unambiguous to me.

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