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[finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

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Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

stagewhat happens
plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

Scope NOT established

  • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
  • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
  • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

Suggested shape, not a prescription

Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

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#13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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    [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and `explain` reports it as `narrows` rather than `denies` — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal · Issue #13639 · objectstack-ai/objectstack · GitHub
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    [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

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    @zhuangjianguo

    Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

    ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

    Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

    When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

    stagewhat happens
    plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
    the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
    explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

    So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

    Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

    The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

    ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

    Scope NOT established

    • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
    • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
    • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

    Suggested shape, not a prescription

    Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

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    #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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      [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

      Description

      @zhuangjianguo

      Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

      ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

      Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

      When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

      stagewhat happens
      plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
      the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
      explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

      So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

      Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

      The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

      ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

      Scope NOT established

      • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
      • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
      • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

      Suggested shape, not a prescription

      Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

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      #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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        [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

        Description

        @zhuangjianguo

        Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

        ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

        Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

        When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

        stagewhat happens
        plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
        the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
        explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

        So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

        Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

        The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

        ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

        Scope NOT established

        • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
        • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
        • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

        Suggested shape, not a prescription

        Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

        Related

        #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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          [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

          Description

          @zhuangjianguo

          Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

          ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

          Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

          When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

          stagewhat happens
          plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
          the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
          explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

          So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

          Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

          The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

          ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

          Scope NOT established

          • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
          • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
          • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

          Suggested shape, not a prescription

          Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

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          #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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            [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

            Description

            @zhuangjianguo

            Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

            ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

            Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

            When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

            stagewhat happens
            plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
            the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
            explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

            So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

            Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

            The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

            ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

            Scope NOT established

            • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
            • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
            • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

            Suggested shape, not a prescription

            Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

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            #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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              [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

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              @zhuangjianguo

              Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

              ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

              Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

              When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

              stagewhat happens
              plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
              the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
              explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

              So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

              Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

              The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

              ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

              Scope NOT established

              • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
              • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
              • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

              Suggested shape, not a prescription

              Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

              Related

              #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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                [finding] an RLS denial caused by an unresolved variable logs NOTHING and explain reports it as narrows rather than denies — the operator debugging "this user sees no rows" gets no signal #13639

                Description

                @zhuangjianguo

                Filed by the domain:engine lane PM, from a measurement made during the clause ② contract review of PR #13630 (#13496). Recording only — no severity asserted, routing is triage's.

                ⚠️PRE-EXISTING and low-urgency. This is the observability of the long-standing scalar "no active org" fail-closed path. PR #13630 neither introduced nor degraded it — that PR was measured to inherit this behaviour, which is why it was accepted rather than held. Ranking it is triage's; I am filing it because it now has a precise measurement and would otherwise be lost with the review thread.

                Measured, at 1cdf3c14ef

                When compileCelToFilter refuses (a current_user.* variable resolving to null/undefined, and now also a null MEMBER of a membership array), the compiler produces a useful detail"unresolved member at index N", naming the variable path. Three things then happen to it:

                stagewhat happens
                plugin-security/rls-compiler.ts:343the detail is discarded — only !ok is consumed
                the drop-warn beside itgated on !isSupportedRlsExpression, which is true for membership shapesnothing logs
                explainreports the sentinel with verdict narrows, not denies — its isDenyAll matches only its own __deny_all__, never __rls_deny__

                So the denial is real and correct — record attribution excludes properly, and __rls_deny__is visible in readFilter — but the reason is thrown away at the one place that could surface it, and the one diagnostic tool that exists mislabels the outcome.

                Why it matters more than an ordinary missing log

                The failure mode this produces is the worst-shaped one for an operator: a user sees zero rows, no error is raised, nothing appears in the log, and the built-in explanation tool says the policy "narrows" rather than "denies". Every signal available points away from the actual cause.

                ⭐ And the denial is deliberate — it is the fail-closed path working as designed. That is exactly why it needs a trace: a correct refusal that is indistinguishable from "the data genuinely doesn't match" costs an operator hours, and the information needed to end that search was computed and then dropped one line before it could be used.

                Scope NOT established

                • ⛔ Whether other !ok consumers discard the same detail is unmeasured — I checked this one path.
                • ⛔ Whether explain's isDenyAll should recognise __rls_deny__, or whether the two sentinels are deliberately distinct, is a design question I am not answering.
                • ⛔ No claim that an operator has been bitten. What is measured is that the signal does not exist.

                Suggested shape, not a prescription

                Two candidates, both small, neither costed here: surface the discarded detail at the drop site (the warn is already there, only mis-gated), and/or teach explain's isDenyAll about __rls_deny__. Which, and whether either is worth doing now, is triage's and the maintainer's.

                Related

                #13496 / PR #13630 (where the clause ② review measured it) · #13552 (the polarity-blind deny guard on the same seam) · ADR-0056 / ADR-0058

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